Resin Interview 27/05/2017
Interview by Richard Tilley with added help and insults from Beth Jones!
A wonderfully hot and sunny day at Bloodstock 2014 was the last time I had the pleasure of meeting and interviewing Resin and it’s hard to believe that is nearly three years ago. Much has changed in my life since then and the same can also definitely be said of Resin so it was great to sit down near the acoustic stage at Uprising 2017, on another lovely day, with Vocalist/Guitarist Dave Gandon and Guitarist Mark ‘Chez’ Roseby to catch up on what has been happening. After the usual array of laughs we got straight down to business!
EVER METAL: So I last interviewed you in 2014. Can you try and bring the readers up to date with everything that has happened to Resin since then?
RESIN ‘Chez’: Well we basically disbanded and we all went our separate ways for a little while. At the same time Dave’s band ‘Twisted Species’ had also disbanded. We had done a couple of mini tours with Twisted Species, so we knew the guys pretty well from gigging and we all appreciated each other’s material and stuff. Simon (guitarist and Uprising main man Simon Yarwood) and I put a thing out saying we wanted to keep Resin going so we were going to audition for a new Bassist, Drummer and Singer.
I think we spoke to Drask (bassist Drask George) first. We’ve known Drask for a long time, he’s done engineering for us and he used to be sound guy at the Queens Hall and we’ve always got on well with him. He’s a hell of a bass player as well so we basically had a bit of a chat with him and the job was his. Then Dave and Stu came down, Stu was the drummer from Twisted Species and they basically filled the next two slots without us even trying. We had some vocal auditions, there are some good singers out there, but to be honest we had had our eye on Dave for quite a while for the job so the fact that he came down and came with a drummer as well was an added bonus and we went from there (cue a few giggles and the comment “that was the only reason he got the job”)
Since then Stu has parted ways with us, for his own reasons – he has quite a busy home life, he’s a family man, so we parted ways…on I think good terms and then we started looking round for a new drummer again. Again we had a couple of video auditions that we got sent from some very talented people and then Ryan (current drummer Ryan ‘Sticks’ Hextall) who had been following the band for some years got in touch. Apparently, he had already sent us an audition years ago when we were looking for drummers, but he was a bit young at the time. He was about 19 and we were all mid to late 30’s and late 40’s and I think there might have been a bit of a clash of personalities. Anyway, we gave him a go this time, now in his early 20’s, still following the band and still working on his game and he just Wowed us really, after that we didn’t bother auditioning anybody else …and that’s pretty much where we are at now!
EVER METAL: So about nine months after you got back together you brought out your EP ‘Persecution Complex’. I have to be honest, leading up to this interview, I sat down and listened to a couple of tracks off of it for the first time and I was blown away. You’ve always had a slightly more 90’s sound to me, which isn’t the sort of thing I usually listen too but, even though I did like you before, I thought this was fantastic. I mean ‘Angel’ is an incredible song, it really is, so are you approaching the writing differently now?
RESIN ‘Chez’: Well I suppose we do but actually ‘Angel’ is a very old song of mine from years and years ago but we’ve never had the correct musicians to put it down on CD before, I mean obviously it’s not Ryan on the drums for that EP, It’s Stu but that will be getting redone with Ryan’s interpretation which is mindblowing. ‘Persecution Complex’ was a chance to get something out there and say “these are our new members; if you liked us before then hopefully you’ll stick with us. Myself and Simon (the two main members) have managed to keep it going, tell us what you think! We love how it sounds, it’s spot on now!
‘Dave’: Considering how quickly it came together, I mean we had pretty much recorded everything at the same time as going out live for the first time. Then you look at the body of work and think ‘I would have done that differently’, you’re naturally going to do that! Some of the songs now are performed slightly different, they’ve naturally evolved. That’s not to dismiss it as a body of work, it’s very good and we are very proud of how it sounded, but it just makes you more confident for the album that’s coming out because it’s going to be so different!
‘Chez’: I think it would be fair to say we rushed it a little bit!
‘Dave’: Oh yeah, out of necessity, we needed people to hear what we sounded like as soon as we possibly could!
EVER METAL: It’s a constantly evolving thing isn’t it?
RESIN ‘Chez’: Oh definitely, we play the songs slightly differently, I mean the song ‘Printing Money’ was the first song we wrote as a band and because it’s in a different tuning we don’t play it anymore. It’s not detrimental to the song but it just got thrown together a bit quickly. We can now rework it to fit in with the album!
EVER METAL: So there is an album in the works. Are you looking for a release this year or is it more likely to be 2018?
RESIN ‘Chez’: We are in the studio in August and the mistake we’ve made in the past is rushing things. Our first album ‘Embrace The Fall’ came at a very bad time, in my life particularly, and a lot of the production was on me at the time. When I had finished it I realised it could have been ten times better, it was rushed. We had set ourselves a release date and that was a mistake but you live and learn don’t you? So this time we want to do things right! I would love to get it out for the New Year, Christmas especially, but if it’s not ready then we’ll hold onto it until it is perfect. So now we’ve got the correct members in the band, we all get on, we write better than we’ve ever written, we sound better than we’ve ever sounded and we are tighter than we’ve ever been then the next recording we put out there has got to be representative of that, so we aren’t going to rush anything this time!
EVER METAL: So as your guitarist Simon Yarwood is the man responsible for putting on this event. my next question is what do you think of it so far?
RESIN ‘Chez’: It’s incredible! I mean how much battery life have you got in that thing (my Dictaphone) because I could talk for hours about it! It’s phenomenal; I’m still as overwhelmed now as I was last year when I walked through looking around. Just over ten years ago a guy approached me at an open mic thing for electric guitars…the electric guitar appreciation society (cue lots of laughs), it was on a Sunday evening and a lot of old boys were getting up, playing Shadows numbers, it was nice for what it was! This guy saw me get up and play ‘Sweet Child O’ Mine’ by Guns N’ Roses and he approached me afterwards and asked if I would give him guitar lessons. I thought ‘well I’ve got nothing better to do on a Sunday evening’ so I said yes! This is the same guy that’s now been in the band with me for ten years and puts this festival on! This was a bloke who could strum, maybe four chords in his bedroom, his Mrs would shout at him “Shut up playing that bloody thing, I’m sick of hearing it” (lots of laughing) and he’s gone from that to this, De Montfort Hall, one of the most prestigious venues there is!
EVER METAL: So, what is it like to play somewhere like this?
RESIN ‘Chez’: There’s nothing like it is there? I mean we played here last year but we were on the Acoustic Stage so I’m yet to answer that question properly. Until we’ve played on the Main Stage later (Resin went on stage at 5.15pm) we won’t be able to give you the full feeling…we’ll e-mail you the answer!
EVER METAL: There is no doubt this is a great event but I can think of at least two other Metal Festivals/Events which are taking place this weekend. This type of thing has grown hugely in the last few years. Do you think we’ve got to the stage where the market is getting over saturated?
RESIN ‘Chez’: Personally I think it’s getting over saturated with badly organised Festivals, but I don’t think you can have too much of a good thing. You can see a good few bands over the course of a weekend; you can see a load of mates that you get on with or have gigged with before, it’s great. I think most of the bands here today we know, or have had something to do with before so it’s fantastic. It’s just the badly organised ones that spoil it. I’m just in a band, I don’t organise events, but you roll up to some places and you haven’t even got a bottle of water. Then you come here and you’ve got a dressing room, your fridge is full of stuff, you’ve got food and you know exactly where you’ve got to be and when, it’s fantastic. I think we should be getting rid of the badly organised ones, or they need to pick up their game!
EVER METAL: So now that you’re happy with the line-up do you see this as a long term thing now? Where would you like to be in five years?
RESIN ‘Chez’: Well, after we’ve buried Simon, we’ll audition a new guitarist and carry on (cue lots of laughter).For me; this is all I want to do
‘Dave’: It’s your career isn’t it, or your ‘want to be career’ I don’t strive to have a yacht in the Bahamas somewhere, although it would be nice wouldn’t it? As long as you are just able to make a living! I work in construction but if I could make the same amount doing this then I would swap it in a heartbeat, doing something that I genuinely love, with people that I genuinely love. It’s not fame and fortune; it’s sustainability to be able to do it for as long as possible
‘Chez’: The effect that music can have on your emotions…there are songs that have me in tears every time I hear them, you know? I’d love to be able to write something that affects people like that
‘Dave’: Well you did! When I was auditioning I had to read the words and they are emotional songs. Obviously I’ve not had a hand in a lot of the writing process; we were going through the back catalogue. I was a fan of the band long before I joined and obviously you hear the songs played live and you love them. Then, when you have to deconstruct them to try and learn them you realise how good they are, I can genuinely say that, they are exceptional!
EVER METAL: It must have been really something for you then, being a fan, to actually end up in the band?
RESIN ‘Dave’: Well, when I spoke to Simon about it, when I found out I had been successful; I mean I was bouncing off the walls to find out, and for me it was like joining the unsigned Pearl Jam, that’s exactly what it felt like, it was phenomenal. I mean I almost didn’t do it because you’ve got to do it justice and you’ve got to be so respectful so I almost chickened out. I’m glad I didn’t but it took some coaxing really because I looked at it and thought could I do it? I’m the polar opposite, in every sense of the word, to what the band had before and I thought is it going to work? But it does, it’s different enough and the followers of the band like it!
Some of the feedback that I had when I first joined blew me away and I really wasn’t used to it! I Was expecting eight letters and bricks through the windows, but it worked and there was nothing but support and people were outstanding, they really were. I’ve never had that kind of connection before. My old band was nowhere near like at the heights of what Resin were and are now, I mean we had a decent following and you mixed amongst your fans but it was on a smaller scale compared to this, at times it’s been quite overwhelming with a load of people wanting to speak to you after you’ve played. I mean with my old band, of the ten people in the room two might want to come up and say “that was alright that” so to have this response now means an awful lot to me. You just want to do the best job that the songs that have been written deserve. Sometimes you can put so much pressure on yourself and it’s taken me a while to calm down and actually enjoy it now, whereas before it was like being in a pressure cooker all the time. You’re so frightened of screwing something up, which is why, to be honest, it took such a long time for me to get the songs down. I’d spend a few hours learning something and then I‘d get all jittery!
Simon will tell you; he’s writing a book on how not to learn songs and all I’ve got to do is ghost write for him! (Another bout of laughter).He was spoon feeding me lyrics and he would meet me after a gig and he’d say “are you alright mate? You only screwed up a couple of times; you didn’t do too badly tonight”. I was just forgetting words all the time, it was unbelievable. You read something and all you’ve got to do is remember what you’ve read, that’s literally it and I couldn’t manage it. I used to get so nervous!
EVER METAL: So what’s it like for you now writing new material with the whole band. That’s obviously a different aspect for you?
RESIN ‘Dave’: Well it’s flipped everything on its head, I mean, in my previous band, and I won’t take sole credit for the song writing but lyric wise it pretty much was 99% me, whereas I’ve come into this band and they already have two exceptionally good songwriters, so that in itself made me think well how am I going to fit in with this, but it’s one of those trust things. You tell them if think you’ve got something you can add, if not you just work with what’s being thrown around. It’s a great environment when you’re writing songs, it really is, in every aspect and there’s a bit more guitar work coming my way now because there’s room in the songs to add it in! I’ve got to admit a failing a little bit, I didn’t quite turn into the Mick Jagger frontman I think everyone was hoping for so I got given my guitar back as a bit of a comfort blanket! (lots more laughter) But it works in a natural way now, that’s what I was always born to do. I was guitar playing long before I was ever a singer, the singing came secondary, out of necessity, it’s not something I even strived to do, so my guitar parts have been worked back in now and it works, it’s filled a space that we didn’t necessarily know was empty. Chez could probably describe it better than me!
‘Chez’: Yeah, it adds another layer to it that couldn’t be there unless we did that, it beefs it slightly and everything sounds massive. He’s an amazing guitarist with some really good ideas and it all sort of works!
EVER METAL: Does it put you more at ease when you’ve got your guitar in front of you?
RESIN: Yeah, you can still be mobile, you can obviously still move around but there are a lot of times when I’ve looked at old footage, certainly when Chez is playing his leads where for 50% of it, I was just standing still listening to it and the other 50% thinks ‘right, you better be doing something now’ and it’s quite obvious I’m just stood there doing nothing and that was the constant battle I was having so to have my guitar back a little bit helps. Originally I got to the point where I was quite comfortable without it but not enough to do an entire set, even though I did do it, but after a bit you think ‘it’s becoming quite obvious now that I’ve run out of things to do’ so down goes the hand into the trousers. We made a drinking game out of it ‘How many times I scratched myself or put my hands down my trousers!’ I mean I don’t think you could play that game, watch a whole video and live! It was ‘How many times does Simon look angry’? ‘How many times does Drask look a little bit bored’?, ‘How many times did I scratch or touch myself’? or ‘How many times does Chez look at the floor’?
We had to stop for a bit here for everyone to stop laughing!
EVER METAL: We’ve got pretty much to the last question and this one we are going to be asking everyone today because we always try to come up with a silly one, so;
If you were a Monty Python film what would the title be?
After a fairly long and thoughtful pause we got the following answer and plenty of laughs!
RESIN ‘Chez’: ‘Dirty Resin and the Holy Newquay Brown’
‘Dave’: Can you do us a favour and tell everyone we weren’t really cheerful because it’s going to shatter the image! Just say we were ‘woe is me’!
EVER METAL: No, don’t worry we shall tell everyone you were dull and morose! Is there anything else you would like to add before we wrap it up?
RESIN ‘Chez’: Yeah, thanks for sticking with us, thanks for coming along to watch the shows, keep supporting the band and Resin Events as well, that Simon runs on his own and bollocks to anyone who wants to try and put a stop to gigs like this happening like we had in Manchester (this refers to the disgusting terror attack at the Ariana Grande Concert at the Manchester Arena on 22nd May 2017, five days before Uprising which was obviously still very fresh in everyone’s thoughts)
EVER METAL: It is great to see that people have come out and aren’t letting these ‘people’ win?
RESIN ‘Chez’: Keep going to gigs and keep saying ‘Fuck You’!
‘Dave’: Can we just send a quick shout out to the ladies behind the men please because I’m here thanks to the good grace of my wife who’s given me a two day weekend and Simon’s wife who has obviously lived and breathed every second of this, Chez’s Mrs who has been very supportive…I’m just kissing ass! Without the support off all of them we wouldn’t be able to do it! Family doing little things like that allow you to go and do the things you love and it means we get to actually support the event as well!
With that Dave and Chez went on their merry way to get ready for their gig later in the day. They were both absolute gentleman and a pleasure to talk to.
As for the gig itself, it was a cracker. I was really impressed with the new line-up, which included, recently added Emma Bennett on the violin. This is a subject we hadn’t even touched on so I’ll make sure that’s chatted about next time!
I just want to thank the guys for having a chat with us on what is our first interview for Ever Metal and we look forward to bringing you many more over the coming weeks, months and years!